Comments on: War, Conservatism and Ron Paul http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/ Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:29:50 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Rod http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1514 Rod Tue, 10 Jun 2008 22:42:03 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1514 Very thoughtful article. The fact remains that the GOP, at present, just doesn't get it. Historically and militarily, invading Iraq after 9/11 would only have been analogous to FDR invading New Zealand after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. With McCain and the current GOP leadership, the message has been reduced to this: "The jobs aren't comming back, the illegals aren't going home, the economy will be better when we hand it over to the liberals, and we will be in Iraq and possibly new wars for 100 years ... but vote for us because we're not Democrats." In Novemeber, the Democrats won't have to kill the Republicans at the ballot box, the GOP, apparently, will just continue it's brainless political suicide mission. Very thoughtful article. The fact remains that the GOP, at present, just doesn’t get it. Historically and militarily, invading Iraq after 9/11 would only have been analogous to FDR invading New Zealand after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor.

With McCain and the current GOP leadership, the message has been reduced to this:

“The jobs aren’t comming back, the illegals aren’t going home, the economy will be better when we hand it over to the liberals, and we will be in Iraq and possibly new wars for 100 years … but vote for us because we’re not Democrats.”

In Novemeber, the Democrats won’t have to kill the Republicans at the ballot box, the GOP, apparently, will just continue it’s brainless political suicide mission.

]]> By: Dan http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1507 Dan Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:49:31 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1507 Come the general election, in all likelihood a write-in vote for Ron Paul will not be counted; in most states, even an "official" write-in candidate must file some nominal paperwork to be recognized as such, and Ron Paul is not going to do that. If you are going to cast a vote, cast one that will be counted, for a ballot-listed candidate (e.g., Libertarian nominee Bob Barr). Come the general election, in all likelihood a write-in vote for Ron Paul will not be counted; in most states, even an “official” write-in candidate must file some nominal paperwork to be recognized as such, and Ron Paul is not going to do that. If you are going to cast a vote, cast one that will be counted, for a ballot-listed candidate (e.g., Libertarian nominee Bob Barr).

]]> By: truthseeker http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1506 truthseeker Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:04:10 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1506 Why is it the more people tell you about how much they love God, the more they love wars? Most of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Bush and McCain have had 7 years to get bin laden but have yet to formulate a plan on how to find him. The war is all paid with debt- devaluing our dollar and taking away the regular person's savings. McCain and Bush want to run the money printing presses day and night to go fight more wars. It is total madness- a terrible nightmare. Why is it the more people tell you about how much they love God, the more they love wars?

Most of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.

Bush and McCain have had 7 years to get bin laden but have yet to formulate a plan on how to find him.

The war is all paid with debt- devaluing our dollar and taking away the regular person’s savings.

McCain and Bush want to run the money printing presses day and night to go fight more wars.

It is total madness- a terrible nightmare.

]]> By: ronpauljones http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1505 ronpauljones Tue, 10 Jun 2008 03:06:26 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1505 At this point, I'm writing in Ron Paul. I know they say it's the message and not the man but it's the message AND the man combined. The revolution has begun. Don't forget to add your voice to www.lettertogop.com if you haven't already done so. At this point, I’m writing in Ron Paul. I know they say it’s the message and not the man but it’s the message AND the man combined. The revolution has begun. Don’t forget to add your voice to http://www.lettertogop.com if you haven’t already done so.

]]> By: Barney http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1500 Barney Mon, 09 Jun 2008 22:17:53 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1500 War = enormous government expenditure, debt financing, fiscal deficit and bigger government. By what measure is War "Conservative"? War = enormous government expenditure, debt financing, fiscal deficit and bigger government.

By what measure is War “Conservative”?

]]> By: Karma Suture http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1499 Karma Suture Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:13:44 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1499 Excellent post. The GOP is indeed finished. McCain just is not electable - go watch youtube and you will see for yourself. His campaign is DOA. I am currently deciding whether or not to write in RP or go with Barr or Baldwin. If the GOP got wise and nominated Paul in Sept. they might just beat Obama. Realistically no one else can. Obama is too charismatic and will win the American Idle crowd in 5.8 secs. Only Ron Paul has the charisma as well as the brains to beat him. Excellent post. The GOP is indeed finished. McCain just is not electable – go watch youtube and you will see for yourself. His campaign is DOA.

I am currently deciding whether or not to write in RP or go with Barr or Baldwin.

If the GOP got wise and nominated Paul in Sept. they might just beat Obama. Realistically no one else can.

Obama is too charismatic and will win the American Idle crowd in 5.8 secs. Only Ron Paul has the charisma as well as the brains to beat him.

]]> By: Carlo C http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1498 Carlo C Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:32:20 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1498 Ron Paul 2008! Ron Paul 2008!

]]> By: L Step http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1495 L Step Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:22:53 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1495 Good essay! Unhappily too many Republican sheep don't understand that the wars the neocons have pushed them into is also destroying their Party. I'm a registered Republican, and I would never vote for that crazed McCain and his little war-loving string-pulling AIPAC monkey, Lieberman. I'll vote for Paul and no one else. Good essay! Unhappily too many Republican sheep don’t understand that the wars the neocons have pushed them into is also destroying their Party. I’m a registered Republican, and I would never vote for that crazed McCain and his little war-loving string-pulling AIPAC monkey, Lieberman. I’ll vote for Paul and no one else.

]]> By: Paul http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1494 Paul Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:14:54 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1494 YOu raise some very good points about the singular focus of the the main stream GOP concept of Conservatism. I would further this line of investigation by asking, "How is it possible for the same people that scream Right to Life to condone killing innocents in countries that did not attack us? Log on to liveleak.com and look at the war! It is not a war it is a slaughter or perhaps it is best described as they IED or sniper us and we AH-64 Hellfire a truck full of guys carrying 200 dollars worth of AK-47s. Yes these are guys that are trying to hurt US, BUT WE ARE IN THIER COUNTRY! There is a massive moral gap here! How can any party leader condone killing especially when all our enemies are without Armies, Navies, or Missile forces or visible leadership. The GOP Leadership is LOST! IT is time to brush aside the only school GOP leadership and kick everyone of them out. I mean from the bottom up. City, County, Districts, State and National leadership must be tossed out! YOu raise some very good points about the singular focus of the the main stream GOP concept of Conservatism.

I would further this line of investigation by asking, “How is it possible for the same people that scream Right to Life to condone killing innocents in countries that did not attack us?

Log on to liveleak.com and look at the war! It is not a war it is a slaughter or perhaps it is best described as they IED or sniper us and we AH-64 Hellfire a truck full of guys carrying 200 dollars worth of AK-47s. Yes these are guys that are trying to hurt US, BUT WE ARE IN THIER COUNTRY!

There is a massive moral gap here! How can any party leader condone killing especially when all our enemies are without Armies, Navies, or Missile forces or visible leadership.

The GOP Leadership is LOST! IT is time to brush aside the only school GOP leadership and kick everyone of them out. I mean from the bottom up. City, County, Districts, State and National leadership must be tossed out!

]]> By: BB http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/comment-page-1/#comment-1492 BB Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:14:55 +0000 http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/06/08/war-conservatism-and-ron-paul/#comment-1492 It seems like the current Republican Party is made up of 98% naive media brainwashed idiots, 1% corrupt intimidated politicians (and their owners), and 1% murderous Neocon faschists, all of whose loyalties are in opposition to the best interests of the American People. Fasten your seatbelts Kids, its gonna get bumpy. It seems like the current Republican Party is made up of 98% naive media brainwashed idiots, 1% corrupt intimidated
politicians (and their owners), and 1% murderous Neocon faschists, all of whose loyalties are in opposition to the best interests of the American People.

Fasten your seatbelts Kids, its gonna get bumpy.

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