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	<title>Comments on: Rod Dreher@Dallas Morning News: Ron Paul, If Only We Listened</title>
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		<title>By: An American Taxpayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>An American Taxpayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

The worst because they were the most desperate.
They know there are some of us out here who don&#039;t want any of their candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>The worst because they were the most desperate.<br />
They know there are some of us out here who don&#8217;t want any of their candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Great American</title>
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		<dc:creator>Great American</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real issue facing this country is the complete breakdown of the rule of law and obeyance to the constitution. Average Americans are poorly educated and have not idea what it means to be a citizen of our nation. Sadly, I believe that we are at the beginning of the end of our once great country and unless our people miraculously become educated and patriotic towards America first we are going to witness our own demise. The forefathers must be rolling in their graves as we mock the constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real issue facing this country is the complete breakdown of the rule of law and obeyance to the constitution. Average Americans are poorly educated and have not idea what it means to be a citizen of our nation. Sadly, I believe that we are at the beginning of the end of our once great country and unless our people miraculously become educated and patriotic towards America first we are going to witness our own demise. The forefathers must be rolling in their graves as we mock the constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: ART DEKKO</title>
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		<dc:creator>ART DEKKO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 05:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE NEW YORK JEWISH MEDIA ARE THE REASON THAT RON PAUL WAS CLOAKED.  THEY HAVE PRESENTED BOTH MAJOR CANDIDATES, AS USUAL, FOR &quot;YOUR CHOICE&quot;....WHILE COMPLETELY &quot;ICING&quot; RON PAUL.  THEY COMPLETELY SNOWED AMERICA AGAIN....GETTING THEIR PUPPET ELECTED.  AND SINCE, HE HAS BEEN DELIVERING PAYBACK....FROM DAY ONE. A JEWISH GUY WILL RUN HIS WHITE HOUSE....HILLARY &quot;NEW YORK&quot; CLINTON WILL BE SECRETARY OF STATE, (A NEW MADELEINE ALBRIGHT - HENRY KISSINGER, IF YOU WILL).  THE JEWISH HEADS OF THE TREASURY AND FEDERAL RESERVE WILL NOT &quot;ROLL&quot; AS THEY SHOULD HAVE.  ALL IS WELL IN THE UNITED STATES OF ISRAEL.

AND RON PAUL....TRADITIONAL AMERICAN HERO....HAS BEEN CRUCIFIED.  WHAT NEXT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE NEW YORK JEWISH MEDIA ARE THE REASON THAT RON PAUL WAS CLOAKED.  THEY HAVE PRESENTED BOTH MAJOR CANDIDATES, AS USUAL, FOR &#8220;YOUR CHOICE&#8221;&#8230;.WHILE COMPLETELY &#8220;ICING&#8221; RON PAUL.  THEY COMPLETELY SNOWED AMERICA AGAIN&#8230;.GETTING THEIR PUPPET ELECTED.  AND SINCE, HE HAS BEEN DELIVERING PAYBACK&#8230;.FROM DAY ONE. A JEWISH GUY WILL RUN HIS WHITE HOUSE&#8230;.HILLARY &#8220;NEW YORK&#8221; CLINTON WILL BE SECRETARY OF STATE, (A NEW MADELEINE ALBRIGHT &#8211; HENRY KISSINGER, IF YOU WILL).  THE JEWISH HEADS OF THE TREASURY AND FEDERAL RESERVE WILL NOT &#8220;ROLL&#8221; AS THEY SHOULD HAVE.  ALL IS WELL IN THE UNITED STATES OF ISRAEL.</p>
<p>AND RON PAUL&#8230;.TRADITIONAL AMERICAN HERO&#8230;.HAS BEEN CRUCIFIED.  WHAT NEXT?</p>
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		<title>By: The Unconscious Vote</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Unconscious Vote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 22:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When you&#039;ve got every special interest group known to man trying to stop you its easy to shut someone down but its
really hard to shut ideas up as the truth will always bubble to the top.
The media worked very hard at shutting Ron Paul down but stopping
his idea&#039;s will be hard becasue they appeal to almost anyone who has the opportunity to understand them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you&#8217;ve got every special interest group known to man trying to stop you its easy to shut someone down but its<br />
really hard to shut ideas up as the truth will always bubble to the top.<br />
The media worked very hard at shutting Ron Paul down but stopping<br />
his idea&#8217;s will be hard becasue they appeal to almost anyone who has the opportunity to understand them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This part here is so important after the last 8 years of idiotic arrogance in the White House.  I quote the end of the above article:

A philosopher for an age of humility.
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The root of our collective crisis is as old as humanity itself: We&#039;ve been overcome by a colossal sense of pride, which entails the Luciferian belief that we can be as gods. &quot;The problem with us is not only prodigal extravagance,&quot; Berry writes. &quot;but also an assumed limitlessness. We have obscured the issue by refusing to see that limitlessness is a godly trait.&quot;

In the months and years to come, we all will have to learn the meaning of limits. Wendell Berry is no dour scold who preaches a joyless austerity. To the contrary, he tells us that what we truly seek in life is not comfort, but meaning – and that you don&#039;t have to live a life of rigorous asceticism to find it. Rather, we only need to order our lives around the ancient idea that happiness depends on virtue – virtue lived in community. We can only be fulfilled by living within the bounds prescribed by our nature, and in fidelity not to our selfish desires but to the greater good of our families, friends and communities.

This year&#039;s balloting is supposed to be a &quot;change&quot; election, as well it should be. But if people believe significant change will come from Washington, they&#039;re mistaken.

&quot;Why should anybody wait to do what is right until everybody does it?&quot; Mr. Berry has written. &quot;It is not &#039;significant&#039; to love your own children or eat your own dinner, either. But normal humans will not wait to love or eat until it is mandated by an act of Congress.&quot;

Now, with the nation potentially ready to embrace the &quot;new responsibility,&quot; Kentucky&#039;s wizened farmer-patriot should find the audience he has long deserved.

Rod Dreher is a Dallas Morning News editorial columnist. His e-mail address is rdreher@dallasnews.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This part here is so important after the last 8 years of idiotic arrogance in the White House.  I quote the end of the above article:</p>
<p>A philosopher for an age of humility.<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>The root of our collective crisis is as old as humanity itself: We&#8217;ve been overcome by a colossal sense of pride, which entails the Luciferian belief that we can be as gods. &#8220;The problem with us is not only prodigal extravagance,&#8221; Berry writes. &#8220;but also an assumed limitlessness. We have obscured the issue by refusing to see that limitlessness is a godly trait.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the months and years to come, we all will have to learn the meaning of limits. Wendell Berry is no dour scold who preaches a joyless austerity. To the contrary, he tells us that what we truly seek in life is not comfort, but meaning – and that you don&#8217;t have to live a life of rigorous asceticism to find it. Rather, we only need to order our lives around the ancient idea that happiness depends on virtue – virtue lived in community. We can only be fulfilled by living within the bounds prescribed by our nature, and in fidelity not to our selfish desires but to the greater good of our families, friends and communities.</p>
<p>This year&#8217;s balloting is supposed to be a &#8220;change&#8221; election, as well it should be. But if people believe significant change will come from Washington, they&#8217;re mistaken.</p>
<p>&#8220;Why should anybody wait to do what is right until everybody does it?&#8221; Mr. Berry has written. &#8220;It is not &#8217;significant&#8217; to love your own children or eat your own dinner, either. But normal humans will not wait to love or eat until it is mandated by an act of Congress.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, with the nation potentially ready to embrace the &#8220;new responsibility,&#8221; Kentucky&#8217;s wizened farmer-patriot should find the audience he has long deserved.</p>
<p>Rod Dreher is a Dallas Morning News editorial columnist. His e-mail address is <a href="mailto:rdreher@dallasnews.com">rdreher@dallasnews.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a long time Wendell Berry admirer, but I find it difficult to put Ron Paul in the same category.   Berry has a lot more in common with the Greens.   I heard him once say (and I agree) that he is, &quot;Conservative about the things that should be preserved and liberal about the things that should change.&quot;

   I am a potter and was able to give him my thanks and one of my bowls at his lecture  for the Land Stewardship Project in St. Paul last year.

   Here is an article by a Texan that puts Berry in the right light:

Rod Dreher: Wendell Berry&#039;s time is now 
   http://togeika.multiply.com/journal/item/129/Wendell_Berrys_time_is_now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a long time Wendell Berry admirer, but I find it difficult to put Ron Paul in the same category.   Berry has a lot more in common with the Greens.   I heard him once say (and I agree) that he is, &#8220;Conservative about the things that should be preserved and liberal about the things that should change.&#8221;</p>
<p>   I am a potter and was able to give him my thanks and one of my bowls at his lecture  for the Land Stewardship Project in St. Paul last year.</p>
<p>   Here is an article by a Texan that puts Berry in the right light:</p>
<p>Rod Dreher: Wendell Berry&#8217;s time is now<br />
   <a href="http://togeika.multiply.com/journal/item/129/Wendell_Berrys_time_is_now" rel="nofollow">http://togeika.multiply.com/journal/item/129/Wendell_Berrys_time_is_now</a></p>
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		<title>By: Deeptoad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deeptoad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Paul&#039;s following wasn&#039;t really small. It was just overlooked rather often by the media. Now, they&#039;re taking to public office, supporting others who are like-minded, branching into active groups, forming anti-fed coalitions and keeping up the good fight. So, Dr. Paul didn&#039;t get the White House, but he&#039;s still doing amazing things to bring people to their feet and get them interested in the course of our nation again. He&#039;s more valuable to us where he is but... dang... a Paul Presidency would have been too cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Paul&#8217;s following wasn&#8217;t really small. It was just overlooked rather often by the media. Now, they&#8217;re taking to public office, supporting others who are like-minded, branching into active groups, forming anti-fed coalitions and keeping up the good fight. So, Dr. Paul didn&#8217;t get the White House, but he&#8217;s still doing amazing things to bring people to their feet and get them interested in the course of our nation again. He&#8217;s more valuable to us where he is but&#8230; dang&#8230; a Paul Presidency would have been too cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Desiree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desiree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rod, you couldn&#039;t be more wrong when you wrote, &quot;the young...the most ardent of Dr. Paul’s supporters, incidentally – who are far more likely to identify with the Democrats.&quot;  Speaking as a &quot;young&quot; Ron Paul supporter, we are polar opposites from the Dems and the neo-Cons in the GOP.  We only support those who support and defend the U.S. Constitution</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod, you couldn&#8217;t be more wrong when you wrote, &#8220;the young&#8230;the most ardent of Dr. Paul’s supporters, incidentally – who are far more likely to identify with the Democrats.&#8221;  Speaking as a &#8220;young&#8221; Ron Paul supporter, we are polar opposites from the Dems and the neo-Cons in the GOP.  We only support those who support and defend the U.S. Constitution</p>
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		<title>By: jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are correct Andrew. More and more people recognize this but, sadly, many more either don&#039;t see this or don&#039;t care.

The media manipulation during this election cycle was the absolutely the worst I&#039;ve ever seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are correct Andrew. More and more people recognize this but, sadly, many more either don&#8217;t see this or don&#8217;t care.</p>
<p>The media manipulation during this election cycle was the absolutely the worst I&#8217;ve ever seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Panken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Panken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron Paul&#039;s campaign only appeared small in the media.  His rallies had thousands of supporters in attendance vs John McCain&#039;s rallies that were lucky to have a couple of hundred in the audience.  The media totally distorts our elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron Paul&#8217;s campaign only appeared small in the media.  His rallies had thousands of supporters in attendance vs John McCain&#8217;s rallies that were lucky to have a couple of hundred in the audience.  The media totally distorts our elections.</p>
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