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	<title>Comments on: SA@Takimag &#8211; Social Issues Symbolism</title>
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		<title>By: Cal C</title>
		<link>http://southernavenger.ccpblogs.com/2008/12/26/satakimag-social-issues-symbolism/comment-page-1/#comment-4741</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 13:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama owes the gays nothing they almost universally opposed him while supporting Hillary and they were extremely bitter after she conceded-now it is payback time. He owes them nothing and he will give them nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama owes the gays nothing they almost universally opposed him while supporting Hillary and they were extremely bitter after she conceded-now it is payback time. He owes them nothing and he will give them nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 09:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I hate to say this, I think SA is right on the money on this one. I believe that Obama is nothing if not a brilliant strategist. His strategy here is flawless. Question: how can I appear to be reaching across the aisle and at the same time not step on many toes? Answer: step on the toes of an unpopular minority that only comprises about five percent of the voting electorate. 

Clinton did the same thing. He rode into the White House on the backs of gay voters to whom he promised the world, but only gave a vague &quot;don&#039;t ask don&#039;t tell&quot; compromise on gays in the military that was worse than if he had done nothing at all. 

I was a die-hard, yellow-dog Democrat for over forty years. As a gay man, I was told time and again the same thing: that liberals were on my side, but now is not the time to seek civil equality. For forty years! The last straw was when a local Democratic Party organizer wrote a letter to the editor of my local paper which went something like this: &quot;Kick up your hooves, Democrats! Now that those immoral gay people have been removed from our party platform, we  might actually whoop Republican&#039;s butts now.&quot;  I officially left the Democratic Party after reading this, and have been a voting independent for the last four years. I voted for Bob Barre in the last election.

I guess that&#039;s why I continue to read SA&#039;s commentaries. I think we both have been let down by our perspective ideological peers. And now that we are both on the outside looking in, we have the ability to see through the bs on both sides of the political aisle. 

Politics as usual. What could be sadder and more disheartening than that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I hate to say this, I think SA is right on the money on this one. I believe that Obama is nothing if not a brilliant strategist. His strategy here is flawless. Question: how can I appear to be reaching across the aisle and at the same time not step on many toes? Answer: step on the toes of an unpopular minority that only comprises about five percent of the voting electorate. </p>
<p>Clinton did the same thing. He rode into the White House on the backs of gay voters to whom he promised the world, but only gave a vague &#8220;don&#8217;t ask don&#8217;t tell&#8221; compromise on gays in the military that was worse than if he had done nothing at all. </p>
<p>I was a die-hard, yellow-dog Democrat for over forty years. As a gay man, I was told time and again the same thing: that liberals were on my side, but now is not the time to seek civil equality. For forty years! The last straw was when a local Democratic Party organizer wrote a letter to the editor of my local paper which went something like this: &#8220;Kick up your hooves, Democrats! Now that those immoral gay people have been removed from our party platform, we  might actually whoop Republican&#8217;s butts now.&#8221;  I officially left the Democratic Party after reading this, and have been a voting independent for the last four years. I voted for Bob Barre in the last election.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s why I continue to read SA&#8217;s commentaries. I think we both have been let down by our perspective ideological peers. And now that we are both on the outside looking in, we have the ability to see through the bs on both sides of the political aisle. </p>
<p>Politics as usual. What could be sadder and more disheartening than that?</p>
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		<title>By: local yokel</title>
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		<dc:creator>local yokel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG Pearlgirl,

Chill out, s&#039;il vous plait.  At least the gay folks I know (some of whom are close family members BTW and all gay from birth and not a degenerate among them, I might add) take the time to spell when they write.  You need to slow down because your comment looks more like a LOL cat caption than a response, IMHO. ; )

You need to check out Soulforce. (www.soulforce.org) There *are* religious folks who love and accept gay folks because LOVE is THE Christian value if you are *really* talking about Jesus Christ and not some nominal fundamentalist bullcrap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG Pearlgirl,</p>
<p>Chill out, s&#8217;il vous plait.  At least the gay folks I know (some of whom are close family members BTW and all gay from birth and not a degenerate among them, I might add) take the time to spell when they write.  You need to slow down because your comment looks more like a LOL cat caption than a response, IMHO. ; )</p>
<p>You need to check out Soulforce. (www.soulforce.org) There *are* religious folks who love and accept gay folks because LOVE is THE Christian value if you are *really* talking about Jesus Christ and not some nominal fundamentalist bullcrap.</p>
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		<title>By: PearlGirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>PearlGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Flex - yo uare the one that&#039;s is an obsessed lunatic. Homosexuality is aberrant behavior. The more &quot;gays are &quot;out of the closet&quot;, and flout their strange lusts, the more it&#039;s undeniably obvious that homosexuality is an indication of seep mental illness, moral degeneracy, and just-plain &quot;brokedness&quot;. Nature decress that all living things go forth and procreate. Given the lifestyles of homosexuals - pederaty is a death-create. Homos die young, of  grotesque diseases, and do not replenish the species. You have seized temporary power now - but your hour grows short. The fals economy is burning and crashing. People will be focred inot survival mode. NORMAL adults will need to adults their children. The larger society will regain [it&#039;s] senses, and re-awaken to the FACT the &quot;breeders&quot; are the ones that MATTER, in society, not flouncing, prancing, hysterical degenerates. LAMBDA delenda est!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Flex &#8211; yo uare the one that&#8217;s is an obsessed lunatic. Homosexuality is aberrant behavior. The more &#8220;gays are &#8220;out of the closet&#8221;, and flout their strange lusts, the more it&#8217;s undeniably obvious that homosexuality is an indication of seep mental illness, moral degeneracy, and just-plain &#8220;brokedness&#8221;. Nature decress that all living things go forth and procreate. Given the lifestyles of homosexuals &#8211; pederaty is a death-create. Homos die young, of  grotesque diseases, and do not replenish the species. You have seized temporary power now &#8211; but your hour grows short. The fals economy is burning and crashing. People will be focred inot survival mode. NORMAL adults will need to adults their children. The larger society will regain [it's] senses, and re-awaken to the FACT the &#8220;breeders&#8221; are the ones that MATTER, in society, not flouncing, prancing, hysterical degenerates. LAMBDA delenda est!</p>
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		<title>By: Flex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does anyone believe that advocates for marriage equality need to compromise with religious fundamentalists? They&#039;re not our guardians, or our mentors. We don&#039;t need to accept anything that they espouse, because they&#039;re dead wrong. At the end of this gay marriage war, they will be the odd man out. Their religion doesn&#039;t have anything deep to offer them except opposition to anything gay. They&#039;re obsessed lunatics who should humiliated and shamed, because they need to reap the seeds that they sow!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does anyone believe that advocates for marriage equality need to compromise with religious fundamentalists? They&#8217;re not our guardians, or our mentors. We don&#8217;t need to accept anything that they espouse, because they&#8217;re dead wrong. At the end of this gay marriage war, they will be the odd man out. Their religion doesn&#8217;t have anything deep to offer them except opposition to anything gay. They&#8217;re obsessed lunatics who should humiliated and shamed, because they need to reap the seeds that they sow!</p>
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		<title>By: roho</title>
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		<dc:creator>roho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 18:14:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How true it is Jack. To solve problems, destroys the job security of problem solvers.....As for Rick Warren, I enjoyed his little book, but find him somewhat tarnished by the fact that he has been a member of the CFR for some time. Now, I even see the book as questionable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How true it is Jack. To solve problems, destroys the job security of problem solvers&#8230;..As for Rick Warren, I enjoyed his little book, but find him somewhat tarnished by the fact that he has been a member of the CFR for some time. Now, I even see the book as questionable?</p>
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